Bahuvedanīya sutta: Discourse on many types of feeling
By Dr. Ari Ubeysekara
Introduction
Lord Gautama Buddha who lived and preached in India during the 6th and 5th century BC, delivered a vast number of discourses during the ministry of forty five years from enlightenment to passing away at the age of eighty years. Those discourses have been divided into five collections.
- Collection of long discourses (dīgha nikāya)
- Collection of middle length discourses (majjhima nikāya)
- Collection of connected discourses (samyutta nikāya)
- Collection of numerical discourses (anguttara nikāya)
- Collection of minor discourses (khuddaka nikāya)
The collection of the middle length discourses (majjhima nikāya) contain 152 discourses delivered by the Buddha and the Buddha’s chief disciples. The 152 discourses are divided into three parts consisting of 50, 50 and 52 discourses respectively. Bahuvedanīya sutta is the 59th discourse included in the second part. (1)
Content of Bahuvedanīya sutta
Thus have I heard.
[All the discourses of the Buddha contained in the five collections were narrated by Venerable Arahant Ānanda from memory at the first Buddhist council that was held three months after the Buddha’s passing away. He was the chief attendant of the Buddha and was known as the “guardian of the Dhamma” due to his excellent skill in remembering the Buddha’s discourse. At the Buddhist council, each discourse was begun by him with the same phrase found at the beginning of this discourse too, “evaṁ me sutaṁ” meaning “Thus have I heard”.]
At one time the Buddha was staying at Sāvatti in the Jeta Grove, Anāthapindika’s monastery.
[At the time that this discourse was delivered, the Buddha was staying at the Jetavana monastery in Sāvatti which was built and donated to the Buddha by the chief benefactor Anāthapindika. It was named Jetavana, as the land on which it was built was bought from a prince named Jeta. Sāvatti was a favourite residence of the Buddha and it is recorded that the Buddha spent twenty five rainy retreats at Sāvatti.]
Then, the carpenter named Pañcakañga went up to Venerable Udāyi, paid homage and sat to one side. While sitting to one side, he said to Venerable Udāyi: “Venerable Udāyi, how many kinds of feelings has the Blessed One spoken of?”
[It is said that this carpenter was named Pañcakañga as he used to carry five carpenter’s tools with him. He is described as the carpenter to the King Pasenadi of Kosala Kingdom. He was a follower of the Buddha and had an interest in listening to and discussing aspects of the Buddha’s teaching.]
“Householder, three kinds of feelings have been spoken of by the Blessed One: pleasant feeling, unpleasant feeling, neutral feeling. The Blessed One has spoken of these three kinds of feelings.”
[In the Datthabba sutta of the Samyutta Nikāya, the Buddha has described three types of feelings.
“There are, O monks, these three feelings: pleasant, unpleasant and neither-unpleasant-nor-pleasant”
- Pleasant feeling (sukha vedanā)
- Unpleasant feeling (dukkha vedanā)
- Neither unpleasant nor pleasant feeling (adukkham-asukha vedanā)] (2)
When this was said, carpenter Pañcakañga said to Venerable Udāyi: “Venerable Udāyi, three kinds of feelings have not been spoken of by the Blessed One. Two kinds of feelings have been spoken of by the Blessed One: pleasant feeling and unpleasant feeling. The Blessed One has said that neutral feeling belong to peaceful and sublime pleasure.”
For the second time, Venerable Udāyi said this to carpenter Pañcakañga: “Householder, three kinds of feelings have been spoken of by the Blessed One: pleasant feeling, unpleasant feeling, neutral feeling. The Blessed One has spoken of these three kinds of feelings.”
For the second time, carpenter Pañcakañga said this to Venerable Udāyi: “Venerable Udāyi, three kinds of feelings have not been spoken of by the Blessed One. Two kinds of feelings have been spoken of by the Blessed One: pleasant feeling and unpleasant feeling. The Blessed One has said that neutral feeling belong to peaceful and sublime pleasure.”
For the third time, Venerable Udāyi said this to carpenter Pañcakañga: “Householder, three kinds of feelings have been spoken of by the Blessed One: pleasant feeling, unpleasant feeling, neutral feeling. The Blessed One has spoken of these three kinds of feelings.”
For the third time, carpenter Pañcakañga said this to Venerable Udāyi: “Venerable Udāyi, three kinds of feelings have not been spoken of by the Blessed One. Two kinds of feelings have been spoken of by the Blessed One: pleasant feeling and unpleasant feeling. The Blessed One has said that neutral feeling belong to peaceful and sublime pleasure.”
Neither Venerable Udāyi nor carpenter Pañcakañga was able to convince each other on this matter. Now Venerable Ānanda happened to hear this conversation between Venerable Udāyi and carpenter Pañcakañga. Then Venerable Ānanda went to the Buddha, paid homage and sat to one side. While sitting to one side, he reported the whole conversation between Venerable Udāyi and carpenter Pañcakañga to the Buddha.
[Venerable Ānanda was a cousin of the Buddha and ordained as a monk in the second year following the Buddha’s enlightenment. He attained the first supra mundane stage of Stream Enterer (Sotāpañña) soon after his ordination, but did not attain enlightenment until after the passing away of the Buddha. Twenty years after his ordination, he was appointed as the chief attendant of the Buddha which he served until the Buddha’s passing away.]
The Buddha said: “Ānanda, the explanation given by Venerable Udāyi, which carpenter Pañcakañga did not agree with was correct. But the explanation given by carpenter Pañcakañga which Venerable Udāyi did not agree with was also correct. Ānanda, in one explanation I have spoken of two kinds of feelings. In another explanation I have spoken of three feelings, or five, six, eighteen, thirty six, or one hundred and eight kinds of feelings. I have explained the teaching in all these different ways.”
[In the Atthasata pariyāya sutta of the Samyutta Nikāya, the Buddha has presented a classification of feelings that ranges from two feelings to one hundred and eight feelings.] (3)
“Regarding the teaching that I have explained in different ways, you can expect that those who do not agree with, do not consent to, and do not accept with what has been well spoken, will argue, quarrel, and get into fights hurting each other with barbed words.”
“Regarding the teaching that I have explained in different ways, if there are those who agree with, consent to, and accept with what has been well spoken, it may be expected of them that they will live in harmony, rejoicing in one another, without disputes, blending like milk and water, looking at other with loving eyes.”
“Ananda, there are these five cords of sensual pleasure. What are the five?”
“Forms, cognisable by the eye that are wished for, desirable, agreeable and endearing, connected with sensual desire, and arousing lust. Sounds, cognisable by the ear that are wished for, desirable, agreeable and endearing, connected with sensual desire, and arousing lust. Smells, cognisable by the nose that are wished for, desirable, agreeable and endearing, connected with sensual desire, and arousing lust. Tastes, cognisable by the tongue that are wished for, desirable, agreeable and endearing, connected with sensual desire, and arousing lust. Touches, cognisable by the body that are wished for, desirable, agreeable and endearing, connected with sensual desire, and arousing lust. These, Ānanda, are the five cords of sensual pleasure. Ānanda, the pleasure and joy that arise from these five kinds of sensual pleasure is called sensual pleasure.”
[The Buddha has described the sensual pleasure arising from the five internal sensory bases of the eye, ear, nose, tongue and the body. When each of them receives respective external sense objects which are wished for, desirable, agreeable and endearing, connected with sensual desire, and arousing lust, the receiver enjoys pleasant sensations. The pleasure experienced from these five sensory bases is called carnal or worldly sense based (sāmisa) pleasure.]
“There are those who would say: ‘This is the supreme pleasure and joy that sentient beings experience’. But I would not concede that. Why is that? Because there is another kind of pleasure which is more excellent and more sublime than that. And what is that pleasure? Here, Ānanda, a monk, quite secluded from sense pleasures, secluded from unwholesome states of the mind, enters and remains in the first mental absorption, which is accompanied by applied thought and sustained thought, which has the rapture and pleasure born of seclusion. This pleasure, Ānanda, is more excellent and more sublime than the other pleasure.”
“There are those who would say: ‘This is the supreme pleasure and joy that sentient beings experience’. But I would not concede that. Why is that? Because there is another kind of pleasure which is more excellent and more sublime than that. And what is that pleasure? Here, Ānanda, a monk, quite secluded from sense pleasures, secluded from unwholesome states of the mind, enters and remains in the second mental absorption, which is free from applied thought and sustained thought, which has the rapture and pleasure born of concentration. This pleasure, Ānanda, is more excellent and more sublime than the other pleasure.”
“There are those who would say: ‘This is the supreme pleasure and joy that sentient beings experience’. But I would not concede that. Why is that? Because there is another kind of pleasure which is more excellent and more sublime than that. And what is that pleasure? Here, Ānanda, a monk, quite secluded from sense pleasures, secluded from unwholesome states of the mind, enters and remains in the third mental absorption, of which the noble ones declare ‘Happily he dwells in equanimity and mindfulness’. This pleasure, Ānanda, is more excellent and more sublime than the other pleasure.”
“There are those who would say: ‘This is the supreme pleasure and joy that sentient beings experience’. But I would not concede that. Why is that? Because there is another kind of pleasure which is more excellent and more sublime than that. And what is that pleasure? Here, Ānanda, a monk, quite secluded from sense pleasures, secluded from unwholesome states of the mind, enters and remains in the fourth mental absorption, that is neither pleasant nor unpleasant, with a mindfulness fully purified by equanimity. This pleasure, Ānanda, is more excellent and more sublime than the other pleasure.”
[Here, the Buddha has described the pleasure associated with the four fine material mental absorptions (rūpāvacara jhana) as being superior to the sensual pleasure received from the five sense bases. The four fine material absorptions are named: First Jhana, second Jhana, third Jhana and the fourth Jhana. When a meditator meditates concentrating on a chosen meditation object, there is concentration of the mind (samādhi). As the concentration deepens with the suppression of the mental hindrances, deep mental absorptions develop associated with the positive mental factors called the Jhana anga: Initial application (vitakka), sustained application (vicāra), rapture (pīti), pleasure (sukha) and one-pointedness of the mind (ekaggatā).]
“There are those who would say: ‘This is the supreme pleasure and joy that sentient beings experience’. But I would not concede that. Why is that? Because there is another kind of pleasure which is more excellent and more sublime than that. And what is that pleasure? Here, Ānanda, a monk, by completely transcending the perception of form, with the ending of perceptions of impingement, with non-attention to perception of diversity, aware that ‘space is infinite’, enters and remains in the sphere of infinite space. This pleasure, Ānanda, is more excellent and more sublime than the other pleasure.”
“There are those who would say: ‘This is the supreme pleasure and joy that sentient beings experience’. But I would not concede that. Why is that? Because there is another kind of pleasure which is more excellent and more sublime than that. And what is that pleasure? Here, Ānanda, a monk, completely transcending the sphere of infinite space, aware that ‘consciousness is infinite’, enters and remains in the sphere of infinite consciousness. This pleasure, Ānanda, is more excellent and more sublime than the other pleasure.”
“There are those who would say: ‘This is the supreme pleasure and joy that sentient beings experience’. But I would not concede that. Why is that? Because there is another kind of pleasure which is more excellent and more sublime than that. And what is that pleasure? Here, Ānanda, a monk, completely transcending the sphere of infinite consciousness, aware that ‘there is nothing’, enters and remains in the sphere of nothingness. This pleasure, Ānanda, is more excellent and more sublime than the other pleasure.”
“There are those who would say: ‘This is the supreme pleasure and joy that sentient beings experience’. But I would not concede that. Why is that? Because there is another kind of pleasure which is more excellent and more sublime than that. And what is that pleasure? Here, Ānanda, a monk, completely transcending the sphere of nothingness, enters and remains in the sphere of neither perception-nor-non-perception. This pleasure, Ānanda, is more excellent and more sublime than the other pleasure.”
[The Buddha has stated that the pleasure associated with the four immaterial mental absorptions is superior to the pleasure experienced in the four fine material mental absorptions. A meditator who has attained the fourth fine material mental absorption, can continue to develop the four immaterial mental absorptions by transcending the perception of form. The four immaterial mental absorptions are: sphere of infinite space (ākāsānancāyatana), sphere of infinite consciousness (viññānancāyatana), sphere of nothingness (ākincannāyatana) and sphere of neither perception-nor-non-perception (nevasaññānāsannāyatana).] (4)
“There are those who would say: ‘This is the supreme pleasure and joy that sentient beings experience’. But I would not concede that. Why is that? Because there is another kind of pleasure which is more excellent and more sublime than that. And what is that pleasure? Here, Ānanda, a monk, completely transcending the sphere of neither perception-nor-non-perception, enters and remains in the cessation of perception and feeling. This pleasure, Ānanda, is more excellent and more sublime than the other pleasure.”
[The ninth and the highest state of concentration is the cessation of perception and feeling (nirodha samāpatti). Because there is no perception and feeling during this state, it is also known as Sannā-vedayita-nirodha. It is said that cessation of perception and feeling can be attained only by those who have attained the noble spiritual stages of the Non-Returner (Ānāgāmi) and the Arahanthood through the practice of the Noble Eight-fold Path. They also need to have mastered the concentration meditation and be able to attain all the above eight states of mental absorption (jhana).]
“Ānanda, it is possible that wanderers of other sects would say: ‘The recluse Gotama speaks of the cessation of perception and feeling, and describes it as a pleasure. What is that? How is that’?”
“Ānanda, when the wanderers of other sects say that, they should be told: ‘The Blessed One, friends, does not describe a state as being pleasure only with regard to pleasant feeling. But, friends, wherever pleasure is found, in whatever way, the Tathāgata describes that as pleasure.”
The Blessed One said this. Venerable Ānanda was satisfied and delighted in the Blessed One’s words.
In the Bahuvedanīya sutta, a disagreement between a monk named Udāyi and a carpenter named Pañcakañga with regard to their understanding of the kinds of feeling as taught by the Buddha, results in the Buddha giving a detailed explanation of the Buddha’s teaching on feeling. It is Venerable Ānanda, Buddha’s chief attendant, who reported the above disagreement to the Buddha in response to which the Buddha delivered this discourse. The Buddha reminds Venerable Ānanda that feeling has been described in different explanations ranging from two kinds of feeling to three, five, six, eighteen, thirty six, and one hundred and eight kinds of feelings. Then the Buddha has described nine kinds of feelings in an ascending order of superiority. The lowest is the pleasure associated with the five sensory pleasures arising from the five internal sensory bases. Then comes the pleasure experienced in the four fine material mental absorptions (rūpāvacara jhana) followed up by the pleasure experienced in the four immaterial mental absorptions (arūpāvacara jhana). Finally, the most supreme pleasure in a concentrated mind is described as the pleasure in the cessation of perception and feeling (nirodha samāpatti) though some may question how it is possible as there is no feeling in that state. The Buddha has anticipated that question and has stated that the Buddha does not describe a state as being pleasurable only with regard to pleasant feeling, but wherever pleasure is found and in whatever way.
References
- Bhikkhu Nānamoli and Bhikkhu Bodhi 1995, Bahuvedanīya sutta, Translation of the Middle Length Discourses of the Buddha, Wisdom Publications.
- Bhikkhu Bodhi 1999, Datthabba sutta, The Connected Discourses of the Buddha, A Translation of the Samyutta Nikāya, Wisdom Publications.
- Bhikkhu Bodhi 1999, Atthasata pariyāya sutta, The Connected Discourses of the Buddha, A Translation of the Samyutta Nikāya, Wisdom Publications.
- Henepola Gunaratana Mahathera 1998, Jhanas in Theravada Buddhism, Wheel Publication No: 351-353, Buddhist Publication Society, Kandy, Sri Lanka.
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